Thoughts on the Opening Night Roster

I’ve struggled to put together words about what I think of the Red Wings’ expected lineup on Saturday in Nashville.

Some years you can look at the lineup and there’s something odd about it, either good or bad, that makes things interesting.  An unexpected missing player or a prospect who had a breakout camp to make the team.

Maybe you could say the absence of Niklas Kronwall is the former but, given the fact that his retirement was kind of telegraphed and the glut of defensemen on the Red Wings’ roster, I don’t really think so.

The roster that the Wings will open the season with has pretty much been set since the July 1 signings of Patrik Nemeth and Valtteri Filppula.  Once Adam Erne was acquired on August 14, the idea of Filip Zadina or Joe Veleno or Evgeny Svechnikov challenging for a roster spot in camp was put to bed.

I’ll admit, part of why I was hopeful that the Red Wings would claim Josh Ho-Sang off of waivers is that at least it would be a surprise and give something to follow.

I’m not saying there’s nothing exciting about the Detroit lineup.  It’s just most of that excitement is centered around six or seven players.

Yes, I want to see what the line of Dylan Larkin, Anthony Mantha, and Tyler Bertuzzi can do together over an entire season.  I want to see if Taro Hirose is the real deal after the hot start to his pro career last spring.  I want to see if Filip Hronek takes another step and if Dennis Cholowski can stick in Detroit.

And I always want to watch Andreas Athanasiou.

That’s a third of the team.

There are a lot of players on the Red Wings’ roster for whom my hope going into the season is simply that they don’t regress.  Or, in some cases, don’t continue to regress.  My expected best case scenario for them is for me to not notice they’re out there.

This is not going to be a good team.  Yeah, some of the players have to talk about just getting in and then surprising people.  Aside from that, no one is predicting Detroit to finish outside of the bottom five in the league.

This is a rebuilding team.  We should expect them to be bad.  It’s beneficial, to a certain extent, for them to be bad, as it should help their draft position.

It is not, however, an exciting team.  There may be some exciting players but it is not an exciting team.

This team is built to lose, but hopefully not embarrassingly.  A big part of the roster is there to just not screw up so badly that the remaining players can’t make something of it.

That’s not much to get excited about.

2019 Training Camp Jersey Number Notes

With the Red Wings having claimed the Matthew Wuest Memorial Cup as champions of the NHL Prospects Tournament in Traverse City, the team is ready for their main training camp to begin, and with that comes the release of their training camp roster.

The roster includes 67 players.  Only two players who were on the Prospects Tournament roster will not be appearing in the main camp – Elmer Soderblom and Gustav Berglund.  No NHL free agents will be appearing with the Red Wings as pro try-outs.

There are no surprise jersey number changes revealed by the roster announcement.

Evgeni Svechnikov, who missed the entire 2018-19 season, will keep the #37 he was scheduled to wear last year.  He wore that number for his debut in 2016-17 before switching to #77 for the 2017-18 campaign.

Finnish free agent signing Oliwer Kaski claims that #77, after having worn #7 with Pelicans last season.  Kaski taking #77 would explain why Taro Hirose, who specifically was looking for a number with seven in it, took #67 instead of #77.

I had speculated that #26 might have gone to Thomas Vanek on a PTO but that ended up going to Grand Rapids Griffins’ captain Matt Ford, who was assigned #77 last fall.  Similarly, I thought that #50 might go to someone on a try-out but, instead, it’s been assigned to Dominik Shine, with Ryan Kuffner having taken the #56 that Shine wore in camp last year.

Goalie Calvin Pickard, the Red Wings’ only remaining free agent signing to not have a number announced, has taken #31.  He’s worn #30 in the past but Detroit has that semi-retired for Chris Osgood, it would seem.

The #3 worn last season by Nick Jensen has been assigned to defenseman Jared McIsaacLibor Sulak‘s #47 has gone to Marcus Crawford of the Griffins.

Any other changes are related to camp invitees and/or were already confirmed.

The full training camp roster is as follows:

Forwards

Num. Name
8 Justin Abdelkader
11 Filip Zadina
15 Chris Terry
23 Dominic Turgeon
26 Matthew Ford
27 Michael Rasmussen
37 Evgeny Svechnikov
39 Anthony Mantha
41 Luke Glendening
42 Mathieu Bizier
43 Darren Helm
46 Chase Pearson
48 Givani Smith
50 Dominik Shine
51 Valtteri Filppula
54 Matt Puempel
56 Ryan Kuffner
57 Turner Elson
58 David Pope
59 Tyler Bertuzzi
61 Jacob de la Rose
62 Cody Morgan
64 Josh Kestner
67 Taro Hirose
70 Christoffer Ehn
71 Dylan Larkin
72 Andreas Athanasiou
73 Adam Erne
75 Troy Loggins
76 Jarid Lukosevicius
78 Gregor MacLeod
79 Thomas Casey
81 Frans Nielsen
82 Tyler Spezia
88 Chad Yetman
89 Owen Robinson
90 Joe Veleno

Defensemen

Num. Name
2 Joe Hicketts
3 Jared McIsaac
17 Filip Hronek
20 Dylan McIlrath
21 Dennis Cholowski
22 Patrik Nemeth
25 Mike Green
28 Gustav Lindstrom
29 Vili Saarijarvi
32 Brian Lashoff
47 Marcus Crawford
52 Jonathan Ericsson
53 Moritz Seider
63 Alec McCrea
65 Danny DeKeyser
74 Madison Bowey
77 Oliwer Kaski
83 Trevor Daley
86 Charle-Edouard D’Astous
87 Marc-Olivier Duquette
94 Alec Regula
98 Owen Lalonde

Goalies

Num. Name
31 Calvin Pickard
35 Jimmy Howard
36 Kaden Fulcher
38 Filip Larsson
45 Jonathan Bernier
60 Pat Nagle
68 Sean Romeo
80 Anthony Popovich

An Alternate Rebuild

I’ve mentioned before that I’m a big alternate history fan, and have posted a few hockey-related alternate history timelines here before.

The Athletic’s Max Bultman took a look today at what the Red Wings’ roster might look like if they had embraced the rebuild sooner. I think it’s a fun piece with a really solid premise and point of departure but I’d love a look that included alternate draft choices.

Bultman specifically mentioned that he left them out on purpose, which I get it as they’re a pain.  I’m going to spitball a little, anyway, and riff off his idea. I should note that this was originally going to be a comment at The Athletic but it got to be long enough that I didn’t feel like it was fair to dump there.


Let’s say the Red Wings not trading for David Legwand in 2014 and Erik Cole in 2015 costs them just a single win for the remainder of those respective seasons. Neither player did much for Detroit so I can’t see them being that much worse without them. Now they pick at #14 in 2014 and #16 in 2015.

Maybe it’s wishful thinking, but I think it’s safe to say they still take Dylan Larkin at #14, with Julius Honka on the board. The next year, though? You could be looking at Mathew Barzal at #16 instead of Evgeny Svechnikov.

And the streak stays alive even without those deals.

Assume it’s Larkin and Barzal and that Larkin debuts in 2015. The only difference on the roster at this point is that Justin Abdelkader has a shorter contract, so 2015-16 plays out as expected.

Summer of 2016, the Pavel Datsyuk contract trade still happens; the Red Wings don’t sign Frans Nielsen. I’d also say that the Wings don’t sign Darren Helm, giving his minutes to Andreas Athansiou, because that’s what I called for at the time and I don’t feel like I should go back on that.

The streak ends on schedule but the team is slightly worse for the 2016-17 season. This is where the butterflies really come in, though, because – for the first time in this scenario – the Red Wings are in the draft lottery and we can’t say the lottery will go the way it did in reality.  Wherever the Wings are slotted based on the standings, it’s harder to know exactly where they’ll end up. I’ll have Colorado win the lottery, Detroit pick seventh instead of ninth, and the Wings get Cale Makar instead of Michael Rasmussen.

Does Barzal still have his Calder-winning performance if he’s in Detroit? Not sure but these 2017-18 Red Wings might be better than ours were. Lets say, since the butterflies have pushed us pretty far off course at this point, by the 2018 draft the Wings aren’t in position to draft Filip Zadina but get Quinn Hughes instead. I can’t see Barzal making the Wings so much better that they’re out of that range but it might be a reach.

However the Wings do in 2018-19 doesn’t really matter because the players selected in the 2019 draft aren’t going to be on the roster today, unless they manage to win the lottery in this alternate world. That said, I question whether or not Taro Hirose would sign in Detroit in this scenario. I’ll assume that he does.

With Makar and Hughes in the fold, I don’t see Patrik Nemeth getting signed this summer. I also think the Wings would be less likely to have taken Madison Bowey back in trade for Nick Jensen, but I’ll allow it. However, I don’t see Oliwer Kaski signing in Detroit in this scenario.  Bowey and Kaski might be interchangeable for this exercise.

Bultman’s takeaway was that his alternate Wings would be simlar to the existing team, simply younger and cheaper. With these draft adjustments, they’ve got a better blue line as well. You’ve swapped out Svechnikov, Rasmussen, and Zadina for Barzal, Makar, and Hughes, giving a lineup that looks as follows:

Tyler BertuzziDylan LarkinAnthony Mantha
Andreas Athanasiou – Roope Hintz – Mathew Barzal
Mattias JanmarkCalle JarnkrokTaro Hirose
Justin AbdelkaderLuke GlendeningChristoffer Ehn

Danny DeKeyserFilip Hronek
Cale Makar – Mike Green
Trevor DaleyQuinn Hughes
Jonathan EricssonMadison Bowey

Jimmy Howard
Elvis Merzlikins

2019 Development Camp Jersey Number Notes

The Red Wings open up their annual development camp today and released rosters for it yesterday.  As such, I’m going to take my annual look at the assigned jersey numbers to try to see what those assignments might mean.

The usual caveat applies: While development camp numbers have been indicators of permanent changes in the past, they aren’t always.  Additionally, things can always change based on any roster moves that happen between now and the start of the season.  I think there are a few things we can assume based on this year’s assignments, though.

First off, the players who actually saw time in Detroit last season.

Filip Zadina keeps his #11, to no surprise.  Similarly, Kaden Fulcher sticks with #36 and Ryan Kuffner has his #56.  The first change is Taro Hirose, who goes from #53 to #67 after wearing #17 at Michigan State prior to signing with Detroit.

Sixth-overall pick Moritz Seider takes Hirose’s old #53.  It’s a number Seider has worn previously, so my guess is that Seider was assigned it and Hirose had to switch, rather than Hirose requesting a change.  We’ll have to wait until the full camp in the fall to see if Hirose keeps #67 going forward.

Seider getting #53 also necessitated a change for Kasper Kotkansalo, who wore that in camp last year.  He takes the #84 of Jake Chelios, who departed for the KHL this offseason.

The #14 worn last season by Gustav Nyquist has been assigned to second-round selection Robert Mastrosimone.  Meanwhile Martin Frk‘s #42 has gone to try-out Mathieu Bizier and Luke Witkowski‘s #28 to Gustav Lindstrom, who wore #54 (now assigned to Matt Puempel) in dev camp last year.  The #26 of Thomas Vanek goes to try-out Marc-Olivier Duquette.

Perhaps tellingly, the #3 formerly worn by Nick Jensen was not assigned.  I think this means it might go to free agent signing Oliwer Kaski, who is not attending this camp.

All of the Red Wings’ 2019 entry draft picks will be attending, except for Kirill Tyutyayev.  Antti Tuomisto has been assigned the #24 that Filip Hronek wore in training camp last year before switching to his current #17.  Albert Johansson takes #95, worn last summer by Seth Barton, who has switched to Alfons Malmstrom‘s #86.  Albin Grewe gets #18, vacated by last summer’s trade of Robbie Russo to the Arizona Coyotes.  Ethan Phillips will wear the #22 last worn by Wade MeganCooper Moore gets the #96 last worn by Axel Holmstrom in 2017 while Elmer Soderblom takes #85 from 2018 camp try-out Luke Kirwan.  Gustav Berglund will wear #97, which I think makes him the first player to wear that number.  Seventh-round pick Carter Gylander will wear #60, which is one of the Red Wings’ standard goalie numbers in camp, worn by Fulcher last summer before his switch to #36.

Speaking of goalies, with Fulcher at #36, Filip Larsson switches to #38, worn by Pat Nagle in the main camp last fall and Joren van Pottelberghe in dev camp last summer.

Interestingly, free-agent invitee Robbie Beydoun is listed as #00, which has been illegal in the NHL since 1999.  I imagine this is either a placeholder number or the Red Wings are simply taking advantage of the rule not applying to development camps.  I would love it, though, if it’s a sign that the league has finally fixed their stat software and will allow the number again.

In addition to those already mentioned, many players returning to camp will wear different numbers than they did last summer.

Victor Brattstrom goes from #68 to #34.  Patrik Rybar has been assigned #34 but the Red Wings have a tendency to double-book goalie numbers in dev camp.

Jack Adams, having lost #70 to Christoffer Ehn, will wear #58.  Jonatan Berggren takes #57 with his old #15 having been assigned to Chris Terry in camp last fall.  Otto Kivenmaki takes the #49 vacated by Holmstrom’s return to Europe after losing #84.  Having lost #17 to Hronek, Ryan O’Reilly switches to #44.

Chase Pearson takes the #46 formerly of Lane Zablocki, who the Red Wings declined to sign, switching from #76.  Patrick Holway switches from #87 to #92 and Malte Setkov goes from #79 to #73.

Also worth noting, while Jared McIssac is not attending due to injury, the #63 he wore last year has been assigned to Griffins signee Alec McCrea, which could indicate that McIssac was going to switch numbers.

Neither #37 nor #77 are assigned, so these numbers don’t provide any clue as to whether or not Evgeny Svechnikov will switch for the third year in a row.

The full roster is as follows:

Forwards

Num. Name
58 Jack Adams
57 Jonatan Berggren
42 Mathieu Bizier
79 Samuel Bucek
50 Thomas Casey
18 Albin Grewe
67 Taro Hirose
49 Otto Kivenmaki
56 Ryan Kuffner
81 Alex Limoges
75 Troy Loggins
76 Jarid Lukosevicius
78 Gregor MacLeod
14 Robert Mastrosimone
62 Cody Morgan
44 Ryan O’Reilly
46 Chase Pearson
22 Ethan Phillips
89 Owen Robinson
85 Elmer Soderblom
82 Odeen Tufto
90 Joe Veleno
88 Chad Yetman
11 Filip Zadina

Defensemen

Num. Name
86 Seth Barton
97 Gustav Berglund
87 Charles-Edouard D’Astous
26 Marc-Olivier Duquette
92 Patrick Holway
95 Albert Johansson
84 Kasper Kotkansalo
98 Owen Lalonde
28 Gustav Lindstrom
63 Alec McCrea
96 Cooper Moore
94 Alec Regula
53 Moritz Seider
73 Malte Setkov
24 Antti Tuomisto

Goalies

Num. Name
00 Robbie Beydoun
34 Victor Brattstrom
68 Drew DeRidder
31 Jesper Eliasson
36 Kaden Fulcher
60 Carter Gylander
38 Filip Larsson
80 Keith Petruzzelli