Special Teams Carry Red Wings to Win over Flames

The Detroit Red Wings scored three power play goals, a shorthanded goal and a goal on a penalty shot as their special teams led a 5-1 route of the Calgary Flames.

With the win, the Red Wings take a 3-2 lead in their Western Conference Quarterfinal series. Game six is Sunday night in Calgary.

A rare shorthanded penalty shot opened the game's scoring at 3:32 of the second period. Dan Cleary raced into the Calgary zone and was tripped up by Roman Hamrlik as he got a shot off, prompting the one-on-one opportunity. Cutting through the slot, Cleary faked to his left and cut right, lifting a backhander over goaltender Miikka Kiprusoff.

Henrik Zetterberg's first playoff goal of the season put the Wings up by a pair at 8:50 of the middle frame. With Detroit on a power play, Zetterberg blasted a one-timer from the top of the right circle through the legs of both Tomas Holmstrom and Kiprusoff.

Just 2:04 later, Chris Chelios scored his first goal of the season with the Red Wings on the penalty kill. Kirk Maltby carried the puck into the Calgary zone and Chelios followed the play, taking a drop pass to punch a one-timer off of Kiprusoff's arm and into the net.

Zetterberg would score again at 5:12 of the third, taking a pass from Pavel Datsyuk in the slot and lifting a shot over Kiprusoff's shoulder.

Andrei Zyuzin got the Flames on the board 5-1 later with a shorthanded goal. Zyuzin tipped a shot by Matthew Lombardi out of the air and past Detroit netminder Dominik Hasek.

Pavel Datsyuk would close out the game's scoring on a Detroit power play with 4:18 remaining. Nicklas Lidstrom fired a shot from the blue line wide of the net and Datsyuk jumped up to pick up the puck behind Kiprusoff, putting it into the net.

The game ended with chippy play on behalf of the Flames, an attempt to set up game six.

Before the Datsyuk goal, Daymond Langkow delivered a sucker-punch to Brett Lebda after the Detroit defenseman hit him with a hip check. Lebda was called for clipping on the play.

Dion Phaneuf and Todd Bertuzzi had a short scuffle with 4:42 remaining in the game but the real fireworks started when Wayne Primeau went off for a slash with 3:17 remaining.

Calgary coach Jim Playfair, seemingly looking to protect his star goaltender, replaced Kiprusoff in net with backup Jamie McLennan. McLennan promptly slashed Johan Franzen in front of the net. When the play was stopped, as Franzen skated by McLennan the goaltender delivered a two-handed whack to Franzen's chest. After only 18 seconds of play, during which he faced no shots, McLennan was ejected from the game with 22 penalty minutes.

Calgary captain Jarome Iginla continued the rough play in the game's final minute, butt-ending Mathieu Schneider before laying a cross-check on him.

The game ended with Marcus Nilson cross-checking Kris Draper, seemingly in an attempt to draw him into a fight.

Each team finished the game with eight power plays but Calgary had 47 penalty minutes to the Red Wings' 25. Detroit scored three times and the Flames were held off the board.

Hasek stopped 23 of 24 shots against. Kiprusoff made 33 saves on 38 shots.


Notes: Kyle Calder was out of the Detroit lineup in favor of Jiri Hudler, who had played in game one and game two but was the odd-man out when Todd Bertuzzi returned for game three... The Red Wings had a goal called back at with 7:01 remaining in the first period, when Kirk Maltby was called for goaltender interference after being checked into Kiprusoff... Cleary's goal was his first on a penalty shot... Chelios' goal makes him the oldest player to score a shorthanded goal in the playoffs in NHL history.

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The speculation this time around is that Jiri Hudler will be back in the lineup and either Kyle Calder or Mikael Samuelsson will be out.

The Wings need the win today to make sure they won't be facing elimination on the road tomorrow.

The last three times the Wings won a Game Five to take a 3-2 series lead, they won the series (2004 Nashville, 2002 Vancouver, 1998 Phoenix). Four of the last five times they lost Game Five to go down 3-2, they lost the series. The lone exception was the 2002 Western Conference Finals against Colorado.

Posted by YzerFan19 on 4/21/2007 at 9:20 AM

 

Yzerfan, nice wrap on the game, appreciate your coverage and thanks from the West Coast!

After the last game I'm basically in the dark as what to expect from the Wings. I had expected a do or die attitude from the Wings in the last game, but it didn't manifest into anything even close to that. I'm a huge fan of the game and have been watching all of the series thus far, only missing the last Anaheim contest...if you want to call it that. Anyway, the Sharks look hungry and the Ducks are deliberate in their overall game performance. Detroit just plainly looks tired and is clearly rattled after the last two games. I had hoped that the Wings would be more intimidating while visiting Calgary, but again they were submissive and mentally beaten. The Calgary Fans, along with the Flames beat Detroit and that's the bottom line. */My best effort as a fan/*

*/My take as a spectator/*

In all of my years watching the NHL, I have yet to see such a transition from a team like Calgary from one place (Detroit) to the next (Calgary) and can't help thinking that this is all scripted or something. It's all so f*cking ridiculous that I can't even begin to believe it. I can't bring it to reason why the Wings would allow such fallacious and superfluous effort during the games in Calgary. If the Flames need to boost their economy with a long playoff run, then f*cking do it with some other team. I'm tired of watching Detroit get beaten by teams that reside in Canadien Cities that are financially struggling (Edmonton). As if Detroit itself isn't struggling after all of the layoffs from the Big 3. My family back there is struggling and I feel cheated!! If the league wants to continue to make cheap calls while in Canada, then my days of watching this sport are about to end. I won't believe that Calgary can go into their house and thrive the way they did, while Detroit all of a sudden has issues. During the last game the Ref's had to back off of the sh*t calls mid-way through the second, as it was clearly obvious what was going on. I'm going to call for an investigation on Gary Bettman for game tampering and tainted officiating in professional sports! Clearly this is exactly the type of poor leadership this Bettman provides to the league. And I will tell you this, Shanahan is the first guy I would want an investigating committee to visit secretly. <img src="http://forums.detroithockey.net/public/style_emoticons/default/wink.png" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.png" />

Yeah, that's my take on this sport from a spectator, and if you think it's a huge farce, check your wallet, because your government lives inside it!

Go Wings! No Bullsh*t! <img src="http://forums.detroithockey.net/public/style_emoticons/default/wink.png" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.png" />

Posted by Glove_Dropper on 4/21/2007 at 11:35 AM

 

Hudler's in, Calder's out.

Posted by YzerFan19 on 4/21/2007 at 3:21 PM

 

Kipper gets his hand swatted at: goalie interference. Iginla elbows Hasek (Game Four): nothing. Hooray for consistancy.

Huge stop by Hasek!

Posted by YzerFan19 on 4/21/2007 at 3:39 PM

 

Go Wings! Heard an interesting fact about Domink Hasek's contract. If he wins the first series against Calgary, he gets a $450,000 bonus.

Posted by skyguy52 on 4/21/2007 at 3:40 PM

 

Hudler's in, Calder's out.


I can't object to that move. CALDER has not had a productive series in terms of points, although his play hasn't been negative. Hate to gravitate back to LANG, but I would have taken him out before CALDER.

Posted by skyguy52 on 4/21/2007 at 3:43 PM

 

Wow. This ref is a f*cking asshole.

Maltby is hit into Kipper as the Wings score. No goal. Goalie interference. f*ck this sh*t.

Posted by YzerFan19 on 4/21/2007 at 3:46 PM

 


Hudler's in, Calder's out.


I can't object to that move. CALDER has not had a productive series in terms of points, although his play hasn't been negative. Hate to gravitate back to LANG, but I would have taken him out before CALDER.

Haha. Once again, I complain about LANG'S play and he comes back with two scoring OPPORTUNITIES that, unfortunately, don't turn into goals.

Posted by skyguy52 on 4/21/2007 at 3:49 PM

 

Ignila takes a shot at Zetterberg to end the period. "It's okay, it's the playoffs." Right, because I'm sure they'd say that if a Wing did it.

Posted by YzerFan19 on 4/21/2007 at 3:57 PM

 

Chelios high stick after Zyuzin holding Bert is ignored. The refs aren't even wathing.

Posted by YzerFan19 on 4/21/2007 at 4:18 PM

 

Dan Cleary is a motherf*cking GOD!

Posted by YzerFan19 on 4/21/2007 at 4:21 PM

 

Dan Cleary is a motherf*cking GOD!


Ok Great Work by Cleary, followed by a picture perfect move on Kiprusoff. Then Zetterman's opportunity, shows the Wings are Hungry. But, HOLMSTROM takes a penalty. Thank goodness its 0-4 on the Flames power play.

Posted by skyguy52 on 4/21/2007 at 4:27 PM

 

Zata with the PPG!

Aww damn, Cleary's not looking good.

Good to see Cleary walk off under his own power, hope he's alright.

Posted by YzerFan19 on 4/21/2007 at 4:35 PM

 

Chelios! Shorthanded goal! f*ck yeah!

Posted by YzerFan19 on 4/21/2007 at 4:42 PM

 

Good to see Cleary make it back out on the ice. Looks like he was just knocked silly for a bit.

Posted by YzerFan19 on 4/21/2007 at 5:01 PM

 

I'm not even sure how to respond to the end of that game. If there aren't suspensions to Playfair (how's that for a wrong name) and Iginla, the fix is in. I think it's safe to say that McLennan is gone.

Posted by YzerFan19 on 4/21/2007 at 6:07 PM

 

I know that sometimes I can get a little lofty in my assessments of games, but f*ck, if you see Iginla in the game tomorrow this f*cker is fixed!! The league better stop this sh*t the Flames are dishing out. They better make a stand and have at least two game play susp, the one on Lebda and the Schneider butt from Iginla. I use to have some respect for that guy, but that is about as cheap as it gets. Does Detroit hit and take cheap shots when they are losing!! NO, this is really ugly to see in the NHL.

I was late on that post Yzerfan, you are spot on right bro!

Posted by Glove_Dropper on 4/21/2007 at 6:10 PM

 

I gotta be honest man, if I was playing out there during the last 3 minutes of that game I'd feel really unsafe to the point I'd tell the coach to make the refs call the game. Really, what the f*ck were they expecting Detroit to do. We're up by 4 goals and they want to throw down when they play tomorrow. That team is a bunch of freakin idiots! I hope to get out of this series unscathed.

Posted by Glove_Dropper on 4/21/2007 at 6:25 PM

 

Babcock refused to talk about the final minutes. Said something like "Well, I'm not gonna talk about that." I think he should have added "You can ask Jim Playfair about it."

Posted by YzerFan19 on 4/21/2007 at 6:32 PM

 

All I can say is DISGUSTING I have never in my life seen unsportmanlike play like that. I am completely disgusted. They put their backup goalie into the game to take out the first redwing he saw. Iginla needs a suspension for butt-ending, Langkow should go for that little Uppercut to the neck of Lebda, and the coach needs a fine as well as the entire organization. This is absolutely ridiculous. I am still mad, and I am still shaking my head.

Shame on the Flames organization, all of that is completely unexcusable. If you don't see any suspensions from this game other than McClennan, I will not be suprised if I see a little repeat of the Avs-Redwings fight. Put Osgood in for the first 5 minutes and let him show Kipper what it's like to bleed on the ice. Put Bertuzzi, Cleary, Maltby, Markov, and Lilja all in at the same time and watch the fireworks go. Iginla vs. Lilija, Bertuzzi vs. Phaneuf, Markov on Langkow, Cleary on Conroy, and Malts takin on Brad Stuart.

On a happier note, I won't be suprised if we see a bit of a blow-out in favor of the Redwings tomorrow. We have the flames panicing again, Just like game 2. They'll take stupid unneccessary penalties and we'll run up the score. We'll shut up the Saddledome for sure. In addition, they had Iginla and company on the ice way too much for a back to back the next day. We'll see how slow they are tomorrow.

F*ck you flames. <img src="http://forums.detroithockey.net/public/style_emoticons/default/wink.png" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.png" /> <img src="http://forums.detroithockey.net/public/style_emoticons/default/wink.png" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.png" /> <img src="http://forums.detroithockey.net/public/style_emoticons/default/wink.png" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.png" /> <img src="http://forums.detroithockey.net/public/style_emoticons/default/evil.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":evil:" border="0" alt="evil.gif" />

Posted by drwmike33 on 4/21/2007 at 6:36 PM

 

Yzerfan, nice wrap on the game, appreciate your coverage and thanks from the West Coast!After the last game I'm basically in the dark as what to expect from the Wings. I had expected a do or die attitude from the Wings in the last game, but it didn't manifest into anything even close to that. I'm a huge fan of the game and have been watching all of the series thus far, only missing the last Anaheim contest...if you want to call it that. Anyway, the Sharks look hungry and the Ducks are deliberate in their overall game performance. Detroit just plainly looks tired and is clearly rattled after the last two games. I had hoped that the Wings would be more intimidating while visiting Calgary, but again they were submissive and mentally beaten. The Calgary Fans, along with the Flames beat Detroit and that's the bottom line. */My best effort as a fan/**/My take as a spectator/*In all of my years watching the NHL, I have yet to see such a transition from a team like Calgary from one place (Detroit) to the next (Calgary) and can't help thinking that this is all scripted or something. It's all so f*cking ridiculous that I can't even begin to believe it. I can't bring it to reason why the Wings would allow such fallacious and superfluous effort during the games in Calgary. If the Flames need to boost their economy with a long playoff run, then f*cking do it with some other team. I'm tired of watching Detroit get beaten by teams that reside in Canadien Cities that are financially struggling (Edmonton). As if Detroit itself isn't struggling after all of the layoffs from the Big 3. My family back there is struggling and I feel cheated!! If the league wants to continue to make cheap calls while in Canada, then my days of watching this sport are about to end. I won't believe that Calgary can go into their house and thrive the way they did, while Detroit all of a sudden has issues. During the last game the Ref's had to back off of the sh*t calls mid-way through the second, as it was clearly obvious what was going on. I'm going to call for an investigation on Gary Bettman for game tampering and tainted officiating in professional sports! Clearly this is exactly the type of poor leadership this Bettman provides to the league. And I will tell you this, Shanahan is the first guy I would want an investigating committee to visit secretly. <img src="http://forums.detroithockey.net/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.png" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.png" /> Yeah, that's my take on this sport from a spectator, and if you think it's a huge farce, check your wallet, because your government lives inside it!Go Wings! No Bullsh*t! <img src="http://forums.detroithockey.net/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.png" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.png" />


Huh?

Posted by skyguy52 on 4/21/2007 at 6:39 PM

 

Put Osgood in for the first 5 minutes and let him show Kipper what it's like to bleed on the ice. Put Bertuzzi, Cleary, Maltby, Markov, and Lilja all in at the same time and watch the fireworks go. Iginla vs. Lilija, Bertuzzi vs. Phaneuf, Markov on Langkow, Cleary on Conroy, and Malts takin on Brad Stuart.


I love the idea of Osgood getting in to kick some ass, but I don't want to see the Wings drop to that level. Hope that the league offices do what's right and let the Wings team do what they can to get the win, don't sink to Calgary's level.

Posted by YzerFan19 on 4/21/2007 at 6:43 PM

 


Put Osgood in for the first 5 minutes and let him show Kipper what it's like to bleed on the ice. Put Bertuzzi, Cleary, Maltby, Markov, and Lilja all in at the same time and watch the fireworks go. Iginla vs. Lilija, Bertuzzi vs. Phaneuf, Markov on Langkow, Cleary on Conroy, and Malts takin on Brad Stuart.


I love the idea of Osgood getting in to kick some ass, but I don't want to see the Wings drop to that level. Hope that the league offices do what's right and let the Wings team do what they can to get the win, don't sink to Calgary's level.

Oh I agree with that 100%, and if it gets to that, their being p*ssy won't be in our favor. However, if the office doesn't come through I say screw it. I'm a big supporter of Justice (that's why I'm gonna be a cop), but when justice is not served in the correct way, I am fully supportive of gettin down with those who deserve it (I'm not saying we should put osgood in to Mark McGuire the sh*t out of someone like McClennan did, but having Bertuzzi put knock Phaneuf's teeth out with a nice hip check would be outstanding.

Posted by drwmike33 on 4/21/2007 at 6:54 PM

 

Huh?
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SkyGuy52, Yeah, I can see why you wouldn't get it, based on your previous input. No worries though, you like the Wings right... yeah buddy me too.

Go Wings!

Posted by Glove_Dropper on 4/21/2007 at 7:11 PM

 

I would love to stoop to their level, but why? After reading and talking to some friends, the Flames basically have truly embarrassed themselves thus far, and getting into a p*ssing match is NOT what Detroit needs. We need to get through this team and move on to the next opponent. Hey, if suspensions are handed out, great, but don't count on anything at this point. I have yet to see such a lack of control in the NHL in all my time, in all areas. The league officiating and now this vile attempt to injure was just waiting to happen. Hopefully this will be over by tomorrow night.

Go Wings!!

Posted by Glove_Dropper on 4/21/2007 at 7:20 PM

 

Heh, Ansar Khan just posted this...


Then, with minutes remaining, in a move that might have been premeditated, Flames backup goalie Jamie McLennan took a two-handed whack to Johan Franzen’s midsection well after the whistle. McLennan had just replaced Miikka Kiprusoff, prompting speculation by Canada’s TSN that he was inserted into the game specifically to deliver a whack to a Wings players, after they had been crowding the crease all game. Is it enough to warrant a suspension? Maybe not, since Franzen was fine. If the league really wanted to punish McLennan it would force him to start Game 6.


Some of that just makes me laugh.

Posted by YzerFan19 on 4/21/2007 at 8:09 PM

 

Huh?SkyGuy52, Yeah, I can see why you wouldn't get it, based on your previous input. No worries though, you like the Wings right... yeah buddy me too.Go Wings!


HaHaHa ....OK guy ... my previous input, some kind of an inference that I don't get it, cuz I don't know what I'm talking about? The only person I've been reading on here that probably doesn't know what they're talking about is YOU. One thing, I'll definitely say is .... I don't think you really know much about Hockey. <img src="http://forums.detroithockey.net/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.png" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.png" /> Another is I don't really care what you have to say. Leave it alone guy. <img src="http://forums.detroithockey.net/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.png" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.png" />

Posted by skyguy52 on 4/21/2007 at 8:13 PM

 

So McLennan ended up being in the game for all of 18 seconds. He got 22 minutes of penalties. That's 1.22 minutes of penalty time for every second he was on the ice. That's gotta be a record.

Posted by YzerFan19 on 4/21/2007 at 8:15 PM

 

So McLennan ended up being in the game for all of 18 seconds. He got 22 minutes of penalties. That's 1.22 minutes of penalty time for every second he was on the ice. That's gotta be a record.


That was about as Blatant an unjustified whack with a stick, as I've seen in awhile. The only thing different about it, and some of the other more vicious stick swinging ragers is it wasn't across the head or face. Looks like the Flames will have some soul searching on the flight back to the Crotch in Saddleville. Lets hope the WINGS can use it to lift them up past the Flames tomorrow night!!Go Wings!

Posted by skyguy52 on 4/21/2007 at 8:24 PM

 

Heh, Ansar Khan just posted this...



Then, with minutes remaining, in a move that might have been premeditated, Flames backup goalie Jamie McLennan took a two-handed whack to Johan Franzen’s midsection well after the whistle. McLennan had just replaced Miikka Kiprusoff, prompting speculation by Canada’s TSN that he was inserted into the game specifically to deliver a whack to a Wings players, after they had been crowding the crease all game. Is it enough to warrant a suspension? Maybe not, since Franzen was fine. If the league really wanted to punish McLennan it would force him to start Game 6.


Some of that just makes me laugh.

Some of that? HA. I love it. If you read more into the article, he says Lebda's got a concussion thanks to Langkow being a moron. That's just wonderful. If the NHL doesn't make some suspensions on this, I will be pretty annoyed. I mean come on, that sucker punch to the face was completely unneccessary and unacceptable. Does anyone know where I can see the postgame talks with the coaches? I really want to know if Playfair said anything about his/his team's complete disregard for sportsmanship...

Posted by drwmike33 on 4/21/2007 at 8:42 PM

 

Some of that? HA. I love it. If you read more into the article, he says Lebda's got a concussion thanks to Langkow being a moron. That's just wonderful. If the NHL doesn't make some suspensions on this, I will be pretty annoyed. I mean come on, that sucker punch to the face was completely unneccessary and unacceptable. Does anyone know where I can see the postgame talks with the coaches? I really want to know if Playfair said anything about his/his team's complete disregard for sportsmanship...


Well, I am finding it kind of hard to laugh at things right now, p*ssed off as I am about the probability that only McLennan will face any punishment.From what I heard in the postgame on 1270, he didn't address the play at the end of the game at all.Iginla did. From TSN...


"It was really about getting some fights going at that point to keep our energy up and carry some anger into the next game," Iginla said with several new stitches over his left eye. "We're not going away."


So in other words, if there's no suspension the NHL says that it's okay to willfully disregard the rules of the game if the intent is to prepare for the next game. Does that mean that if the Wings are down late tomorrow night, it'll be okay to start head-hunting to prepare for Game Seven?

Posted by YzerFan19 on 4/21/2007 at 8:50 PM

 

Apparently that's saying it's ok to take out players to better your team's chances of winning.

hmmm.

I'll be very interested to watch the pregame tomorrow night. I really want to know what Mickey Redmond and company have to say about this. I'm sure they'll say exactly what I'm (in some cases we) are thinking right now.

So for game 6, I'm really kind of on the fence. Will the Flames come out stupid like they did in game 2? Will they have lost it once again? Or did they already learn that lesson and they'll play tough and make it an interesting game?

Does anyone else forsee another ridiculous 3rd period? If the wings get up a good 3, 4 goals on them, I'd love to see some guys avenge a little bad blood from this game.

I can't wait... Go Redwings... We know they have it in them.

I think a lot of people are kind of focusing on the end of the game right now, lets talk a little bit about the first part.

The first period seemed to be the Flames mostly. I think they were outplaying Detroit a little, but it was pretty even. After Cleary's penalty shot went in, the Flames began to self distruct once again. WE MUST SCORE FIRST AND FAST, if possible twice in game 6.

Posted by drwmike33 on 4/21/2007 at 9:21 PM

 

I would love to stoop to their level, but why? After reading and talking to some friends, the Flames basically have truly embarrassed themselves thus far, and getting into a p*ssing match is NOT what Detroit needs. We need to get through this team and move on to the next opponent. Hey, if suspensions are handed out, great, but don't count on anything at this point. I have yet to see such a lack of control in the NHL in all my time, in all areas. The league officiating and now this vile attempt to injure was just waiting to happen. Hopefully this will be over by tomorrow night.Go Wings!!


<img src="http://forums.detroithockey.net/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.png" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.png" /> keep winning

Posted by howefan9 on 4/21/2007 at 9:41 PM

 

<img src="http://forums.detroithockey.net/public/style_emoticons/default/wink.png" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.png" />

Posted by howefan9 on 4/21/2007 at 9:57 PM

 

<img src="http://forums.detroithockey.net/public/style_emoticons/default/wink.png" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.png" /> keep winning

Posted by howefan9 on 4/21/2007 at 10:22 PM

 

Well that is just great, I am out here in the Middle of the Pacific and I missed an A*s whoppin <img src="http://forums.detroithockey.net/public/style_emoticons/default/wink.png" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.png" /> Can somebody give me a run down of the fights? And for the record when Cheli scores shorthanded you know the Wings are on fire <img src="http://forums.detroithockey.net/public/style_emoticons/default/wink.png" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.png" />

Posted by SYfanSD on 4/21/2007 at 10:30 PM

 

I'll try to get some video posted soon, we've got a site we're trying to launch this weekend and the two games are taking up just about all the free time I'd have for that.

Also,

<img src="http://forums.detroithockey.net/public/style_emoticons/default/wink.png" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.png" />

to howefan9.

Posted by YzerFan19 on 4/21/2007 at 11:50 PM

 

Looks like Holland went off on an NHL executive outside the Wings' locker room after the game

http://www.dailytrib...olland001.shtml

Good for him.

Side note: I'm still laughing at all the Flames fans that justify McLennan's actions by saying that the Wings have been running Kiprusoff all series, and that Langkow was right to sucker-punch Lebda because Lebda tried to ruin Langkow's carrer (apparently a hip check, something we don't see much anymore, is now classified as an attempt at a player's knees).

Posted by YzerFan19 on 4/22/2007 at 9:49 AM

 

I'm far from a Flames fan sticking up for my team, but Lebda did crouch a little too low in my opinion for that to be classified a hip-check.

And Wings running the crease is exactly why McLennan was sent in there to do what he did. Orders from the coach no doubt. Doesn't make it right at all, but it is why it happened IMO.

Funny thing is guys like Ron Hextall and Billy Smith made a career of two handers into the mid-section, mind you it was during play with the guy in his crease. I think everything is made too big a deal of these days...Don't I sound like an old-timer?

Then again that gets me back to my first point thinking Lebda crouched too low... <img src="http://forums.detroithockey.net/public/style_emoticons/default/wink.png" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.png" /> You can't win, crouch too low it's a lowbridge, hit him high its a headshot, doesn't leave too much of a target does it?

Posted by Stormo on 4/22/2007 at 10:26 AM

 

Looks like Holland went off on an NHL executive outside the Wings' locker room after the gamehttp://www.dailytrib...olland001.shtmlGood for him.Side note: I'm still laughing at all the Flames fans that justify McLennan's actions by saying that the Wings have been running Kiprusoff all series, and that Langkow was right to sucker-punch Lebda because Lebda tried to ruin Langkow's carrer (apparently a hip check, something we don't see much anymore, is now classified as an attempt at a player's knees).


Whiners ..... what now hip checks are dirty play and should be penalized or worse yet OUTLAWED? Goalies getting harassed in the blue paint, and crashing the net, is another heinous act? What the hell is this game becoming? I can't wait to see the game later today. Can't wait to hear all the whiners complain about this hit and that whack, that hook. I'll bet my next pay check that DOM is going to be harassed, and there are going to be crashers. The WINGS are going to have to take out some FLAMES with open ice hits. I hope the WINGS don't back down, but also don't lower themselves to the level the Flames are/have been. BUT .... with the REFS calling games the way they have, and the "new" NHL its hard to predict what's going to happen. The whiners won't be happy until hockey becomes "CURLING."

Posted by skyguy52 on 4/22/2007 at 1:13 PM

 

I re-watched some of the game earlier (torturing myself a bit, I'm good for that) and I can see how people are saying Lebda's hit was low. I'm not saying it was dangerously low, just lower than it needed to be. That said, when was the last time someone threw a high hip check?

As for the complaints of running Kiprusoff... It seems to me that he's been hit less than Hasek has. Maybe that's my red and white colored glasses. When a guy is checked by a defender into the goalie, it's not running the goalie. Don't want your goalie to get hit? Don't hit someone into him.

Posted by YzerFan19 on 4/22/2007 at 1:55 PM

 

You probably think Hasek has been hit more because everytime a skate enters his crease he flops like a beached whale...lol

Posted by Stormo on 4/22/2007 at 4:28 PM

 

You probably think Hasek has been hit more because everytime a skate enters his crease he flops like a beached whale...lol


Yeah, it's almost like looking in the mirror when I'm banging yer mom! Couldn't help myself son. I love the mask too. Another mush trying to get some credibility, like the Calgary Flames, they're f*cking lousy!Go Wings!

Posted by Glove_Dropper on 4/22/2007 at 4:54 PM

 

I'm waiting!

It better not be a waste of my time either.

Posted by Glove_Dropper on 4/22/2007 at 5:15 PM

 

If there is anyone on this board that lacks credibility it is you for your non-sensical ramblings...in the words of Skyguy...Huh?

Any real hockey fan knows Dom has a history of flopping...so bad in fact that his own coach called him out on it.

My mother??? If you're so desperate that a 70 year old mother of three is looking good to you have at it.

Posted by Stormo on 4/22/2007 at 5:18 PM

 

I'm far from a Flames fan sticking up for my team, but Lebda did crouch a little too low in my opinion for that to be classified a hip-check.And Wings running the crease is exactly why McLennan was sent in there to do what he did. Orders from the coach no doubt. Doesn't make it right at all, but it is why it happened IMO.Funny thing is guys like Ron Hextall and Billy Smith made a career of two handers into the mid-section, mind you it was during play with the guy in his crease. I think everything is made too big a deal of these days...Don't I sound like an old-timer?Then again that gets me back to my first point thinking Lebda crouched too low... :rolleyes: You can't win, crouch too low it's a lowbridge, hit him high its a headshot, doesn't leave too much of a target does it?


How dare you come into this chat and stand on the fence, when obviously it's clear you don't know sh*t about hockey. I've played hockey for most of my life and can easily see that Lebda was losing his balance while placing the Hip on Langkow. What a pathetic way to take a hit, as you know damn well he (Langkow) thows the same hits. A little low with the eyes rolling. Sheesh that's lousy.And this running of Kipper. When did Detroit try to take his head off. Calgary is looking for anything to get p*ssed about when getting their asses kicked. No question about it, or the Wings would be fined right along with Calgary.No, what I'm tried of hearing from you is a pathetic could or couldn't be rhetoric, all the while trying to throw your pansy ass little remarks about the Wings. During the last 2 minute of yesterday's game, it was clear to see the pathetic ramblings of a team that is basically beaten. And about my ramblings and your mom, well let's just say she's probably a beautiful woman and I'm crazy.Go Wings!(This is better than arguing with the Wife!wink.png

Posted by Glove_Dropper on 4/22/2007 at 5:32 PM

 

Please educate me oh wise one.

Anyway...No one can argue there were cheap shots in the last few minutes and I never defended Langkow's reaction to the hit or McLennan's action on the part of his coach...just stated that this kinda stuff used to be good tough hockey. i.e. Battles of Quebec and Alberta in the 80's...Damn hockey's gotten so soft that Lebda's hit could be looked at dirty when Scott Stevens did the same for years and was seen as an awesome hitter

I do like the recovery for your original line about my mom though...that was entertaining.

Posted by Stormo on 4/22/2007 at 5:50 PM

 

Please educate me oh wise one. Anyway...No one can argue there were cheap shots in the last few minutes and I never defended Langkow's reaction to the hit or McLennan's action on the part of his coach...just stated that this kinda stuff used to be good tough hockey. i.e. Battles of Quebec and Alberta in the 80's...Damn hockey's gotten so soft that Lebda's hit could be looked at dirty when Scott Stevens did the same for years and was seen as an awesome hitterI do like the recovery for your original line about my mom though...that was entertaining.


What can I say, when you put the real mom on the spot, I gotta take a leave. I like to play on the chats and sometimes people really do take it to heart, so I was trying to diffuse the remark, while continuing to stimulate some originality. Wow, another recovery... I better stop it.Anyway, I will agree about the chincy calls being made these days, but the Butting of Jerome and the Slash by that Goalie, where do they get off. What if the guy starts to fall as he is about to slash Franzen and catches him in the face or neck? Well, all of a sudden it takes a drastic turn of events, and now it has become a serious enough incident.Even in the early 80's, if a player did that to another player, even his own team mates would be quick to respond in defense of the injured player. This is a game where sticks can kill someone. Truth be told, I hope actions on the ice don't continue to escalate the way they have recently.Go Wings!

Posted by Glove_Dropper on 4/22/2007 at 6:03 PM

 

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